The 7mm RUM was created using the .404 Jeffery case which was also used to develop the .375 RUM .300 RUM, and .338 RUM . Mag., 7mm Rem. [Archive] 280 Rem vs 7mm Rem Mag RELOADING. Winchester does not chamber the Model 70 For the 7mm Rem. I'm just looking for any input on these two cartridges for a pure hunting rig in the open plains for everything from moose to sk whitetail Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk . If you are determined to use the 7mm bullets look at the 280 rem, 280 improved, and 284 win. As with any of the “super magnum” sized cartridges that are necked down to smaller calibers, slow powders will … I plan to shoot the 180 grain Berger bullet for large game. 14.07 fps 24.6 foot-pounds. Ultra Mag cartridge. I got 3100 with the 180 Berger VLD from a 7 Rem Mag but the barrel is 30" long. The 7mm Ultra Mag is a Remington cartridge. The new ones have a wider beavertail forearm and palm swell. You must log in or register to reply here. Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.85" Width: 0.534" Average FPS: 3121 Average Energy: 3330 Average Gr: 154 Recoil: 2.13 Power Rank: 4.81 of 20 The 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum was designed in 2002 by Remington Arms Company. For others, the trend of the 7mm RM losing altitude at a slower rate than the .300 Win Mag as you increase the distance is very important. Mag., 8mm Rem. H-4831sc with moly plated 140 Accubonds right at 3200fps. Its funny that a lot of people feel the need to have such powerful guns in order to kill animals that grandpa used to kill with a 30-30 … Base: 13.0 mm .30-06 Springfield (7.62×63mm) 1. Parent Case: .375 H&H Magnum 2. Tomahawks Are Back: These American Relics Have Seen a Resurgence in Military and Survival Situations. Powders include Hodgdon, IMR, Winchester Eaglet, after doing a quick search through some old threads, I have seen anywhere from 2850 in 24" barrel to 3100 in a 30" barrel for the 180's. The 7mm RUM drives a 150-grain bullet to 3150 fps, or about 100 fps faster than the 7mm Remington Magnum. By David E. Petzal. Learn how and when to remove this template message, http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/7mm+Remington+Ultra+Magnum.html, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=7mm_Remington_Ultra_Magnum&oldid=985962176, Articles lacking in-text citations from September 2014, Articles with unsourced statements from December 2018, Articles with unsourced statements from September 2010, Articles needing additional references from September 2014, All articles needing additional references, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 29 October 2020, at 00:12. No wind to speak of and I was using a solid rest and a 6.5-20 SF Leupold, so I think human error was minimized. It has the best stock of the Rem rifles IMO, unless you dont like the HS aluminum bedded stcks. I was getting 3100 fps out of my 26" barrel, maybe could have gotten more but I don't know. Rifling Twist: 1:10 3. By necking down the .300 RUM to suit the .284 or 7mm projectile, Remington produced a non-belted case with a head diameter that is somewhat larger than belt diameter of original belted numbers. Rifling Twist: 1:9 to 1:10 3. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing 2850 or maybe 2900 for a 180 bullet out of a 26" barrel? 7mm Remington Ultra Ma. I have a Sendero SFII that was customised into my .338 Edge so am familiar with the stock but I am after a lighter rifle than the Sendero for back packing. Neck: 8.0mm 5. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Maybe you might like them? 400 yards is my personal max range as that is the point at which the 160gr bullet still has enough velocity and energy to do its' job ethically. The 7mm Ultra Magnum boasts the largest case of any commercial 7mm cartridge. 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum. Which calibre should I choose? The 7mm RUM is based on the.300 Remington Ultra Magnum (1999) which is in turn based on a grossly modified version of the unbelted 404 Jeffery’s case. These will give substantially better performance than the 308 and won't burn barrels nearly as fast as the 7mm mag. Gun Parts - Stocks, Barrels, Actions, etc. But when the 30-378 Wby. TECHNICAL INFORMATION: Based on the non-belted, rebated-rim 404 Jeffrey case, the 7mm RUM is without a doubt the highest performing .284 caliber cartridge commercially loaded today. Feb 22, 2009 #2 Well, I've never killed anything with a 7mmRUM, but I have with both the 7 Remmy and the 300 Win. I hope I get more than 3100 with my rum. I am not worried about in barrel life as I plan to use the action for a future project anyway. Dec 12, 2017 #2 2five7 Senior Member. Please aproach all ammunition reloading with caution. This cartridge was able to match and even excel in several ballistic categories … The 7mm Remington Magnum rifle cartridge was introduced as a commercially available round in 1962, along with the new Remington Model 700 bolt-action rifle.It is a member of the belted magnum family that is directly derived from the venerable .375 H&H Magnum. I plan to shoot the 180 grain Berger bullet for large game. Sort By . My opinion, is that for 99.9% of the hunting in the lower 48, I'd take a 7mm Rem Mag anyday and never … You are the only one responsible for your actions. You are using an out of date browser. Drilling for Oil in the Arctic National … vs. .28 Nosler vs. 7mm RUM. The 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum or 7mm RUM is a 7mm rifle cartridge introduced by Remington Arms in 2001. The old 7mm Rem. Mag. The 7mm Rem Mag has become over recent years, one of the most popular magnum rounds on the market for hunting purposes as well as use on the range. A Remington factory tube may or may not stabilize the 180 gr VLD. You can NOT shoot these interchangeably. You can go up to 220 grain and I forget how far down but it is a big range. 7mm Rem Mag is a VG hunting round. 280 Remington. Which bullets give you fits abd which ones work awesome in your long range hunting rifle ? I am looking to get a new Remington SPS Stainless rifle in either 7mm Rem Mag or 7mm Rem Ultra Mag. The 7mm Remington Magnum will send a 160-grain bullet—a good … I have a 7mm RUM and tried the 180 gr JLK VLD. http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/7mm-vs-7mm-ultra-mag-39180/. 7mm SAUM with a 24" barrel runs 68gr. I plan to shoot the 180 grain Berger bullet for large game. Depends on how sencitive you're to recoil. 7mm Remington Magnum. Mag. Finally.Good jump. Cartridge ([email protected]) Rifle Weight: Recoil energy: Recoil velocity.17 HMR (17 at 2550) 7.5: 0.2: n/a.17 Hornet (20 at 3650) 8.5: 0.6: 2.0.17 Rem. The .25-06 Remington took a white tail buck with one shot at 25 yards. I moved out to 500 yards on a large piece of cardboard and my rounds were going all over the place, around 10-12" groups. Thanks! To some these numbers aren’t going have any sway in their decision. It offers ballistics roughly comparable to the 7mm STW, but burns more powder to do so. (68 grs of RL-25 in a 1 in 7 twist, 3 groove lilja). I was only ever able to get about 3000 fps with a 160 gr bullet out of a 24" barrel. The 7mm STW was designed by Lane Simpson of Shooting Times magazine in about 1988. Bullet: 7.8 mm 4. Bullet: 7.2mm 4. And because it burns so much powder and drives bullets at very high velocity, it also burns out barrels in short order. Which calibre should I choose? Topshot, Definitely the Sendero. Wind deflection is determined by a combination of B.C. (25 at 4000) 8.5 7mm Rem. 7mm Weatherby Magnum. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data; 280 Ackley Improved Load Data; 7mm Winchester Short Magnum Load Data; 7mm Remington Magnum Load Data; 7mm Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 7mm Shooting Times Westerner (STW) Load Data; 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum Load Data; 28 Nosler Load Data; 300 AAC Blackout Load Data ; 30-30 Winchester Load Data; 30/40 Krag Load … 7mm Magnum Showdown: 7mm Rem. Tha… I am not worried about in barrel life as I plan to use the action for a future project anyway. I would choose the 7 RUM. Parent Case: .30-03 Springfield 2. It may not display this or other websites correctly. 7mm Remington Magnum (7.2x64mm) 1. … 7mm rem mag vs 28 nosler. Barnes Ammo Vor-Tx 7mm … Base: 12.0 mm From the first look, there are no significant differences between 7mm Remington Magnum and .30-06 Springfield when it comes to profile. The 7mm Remington Magnum was released to the civilian market in 1962 and quickly gained popularity in the hunting world due to its performance. Mag., 350 Rem. Eaglet, That's a great chart you provided for Topshot but isn't 3000 fps a little optimistic for a 180 out of a 7 RM? The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .30-30 Winchester vs 7mm-08 Remington ammo rounds. We’ll consider the ballistics of a 7mm Remington Magnum with the heavy 180 grain Berger VLD hunting bullet at an average 3000 fps muzzle velocity, with a standard deviation of 10 fps. The 7mm RUM was created using the .404 Jeffery case[citation needed]which was also used to develop the .375 RUM .300 RUM, and .338 RUM[citation needed]. Abbreviated Name: 7mm Rem Ultra Mag . For decades Remington was satisfied with its 6.5mm Rem. Latest. It is simply the.300 RUM necked down from.308-inch to.284-inch, and the result is a cartridge which is even slightly more overbore than is the.300 RUM. Mag., leaving the all-American 30-calibers to Winchester, Weatherby, H&H, Norma and even Dakota. Using a fat, 404 Jeffery case 2.850" long … [citation needed] Such performance demands a price and in this case, that is a large muzzle blast, sharp recoil and short barrel life.[1]. If you are buying a rifle off the shelf the 7mm Remington magnum will outperform the WSM on average using hadloads and bigger bullets. Shop online for top quality 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum Centerfire Rifle Ammo for sale! Because of its great case capacity it is overbore with all but the very slowest rifle powders. Also what are some opinions on the 7mm rem mag vs 7mm rem ultra mag. November 25, 2019. and 416 Rem. Survival. per sec. Silver $$ Contributor. The .270 Winchester vs. the 7mm Remington Magnum. I built my WSM on a long action to seat the Berger 180s out where they should be. The Remington magnum will still loose a little case capacity in a factory mag … per sec. It is a great round shoots flat, hits hard, ammo is readily available. 3.89 lbs. Hunting . By Ron Spomer. Joined Jul 15, 2017 … Neck: 8.6mm 5. JavaScript is disabled. Here are the differences in averages of the 7mm Rem Mag vs .300 Win Mag; 300yds (.34”), 400yds (1.32”), 500yds (2.62”), 600yds (3.08”), and 700yds (6.96”). will supersede the velocities of the .30-06 Springfield; though the ’06 can use heavier bullets, the 7mm of equal weight will offer a better Sectional Density. tominboise. Mag. With comparable bullet weights, the 7mm Mag. The 7mm Remington Ultra Mag is the smallest of the Ultra Mag calibers. THE model 70 is a Winchester rifle. The resulting case has significantly more capacity than any conventional belted magnum. You will always enjoy better a shooting section having a muzzle brake on it, but you can't forget those shooting ear plugs or your shooting section is over. History Inspired by the Lazzeroni proprietary cartridges, Remington introduced the 7mm Remington Ultra magnum in 2000. 7mm Winchester Short Magnum. Using bullets from Hornady HP, Speer TNT HP, Speer HP, Nosler BT, Barnes XBT, Speer GSSP, Swift Scirocco, Hornady SP, Nosler Part, Hornady SPBT, Sierra HPBT, Swift SP. But, on animals such as Elk, Great bear it is limited by the amount of energy it retains over distance. 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum Rifle Cartridge. .300 Win Mag vs 7mm Rem Mag: Rifle Selection. I was using IMR4350 with my load for the 160's and no doubt some of the slower powders like Retumbo and RL25 could give better performances. I get 3000 fps with a berger 180 with retumbo out of a sendero sf11 7rm. I have both, bought the 300 second after shooting the 7mm for many years. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM—a shoot-off to find the best. The 7MM Remington Magnum killed an antelope at 725 yards with a single shot. 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 128 loads. So My guess would be 2900-3000 out of a 26" tube,depending on powder, barrel etc. I am looking to get a new Remington SPS Stainless rifle in either 7mm Rem Mag or 7mm Rem Ultra Mag. His original rifle was a Rem 700 with a McMillan stock all set up to make a fairly nice middleweight rifle that would in his words "have a banjo string trajectory", plenty of punch, but light enough to carry in mountainous country. Both the .270 and 7mm mag. The 7mm Remington Magnum drives the wide variety of 7mm bullets, from 120 to 175 grains, at respectable velocities. The original purpose of the belted magnum concept taken from the .300 H&H Magnum and .375 H&H Magnum, was to provide precise … The 7MM Remington Magnum took a white tail buck with one shot at 22 yards. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing type. Joined Dec 12, 2017 Messages 4. What sort of velocity could I expect from the 7mm RUM compared to the 7mm Rem Mag with this bullet? Along with lots of choices for ammunition, there is an abundance of great hunting rifles produced by nearly every big firearms manufacturer chambered in 7mm Remington Magnum and .300 Winchester Magnum. The resulting case has significantly more capacity than any conventional belted magnum. There are several 7mm cartridges on the market and they are all DIFFERENT and may NOT be fired from the same gun. In order to use the bigger high BC bullets from a magazine the WSM looses too much case capacity. Weight is only a part of B.C. 7mm Weatherby mag vs 300 Weatherby mag . Mag. More Hunting. are great cartridges, but which one is better? At 100 yards I was shooting a little over a half inch. Compared to the 7mm Remington Magnum, top 7mm RUM loads deliver 25% more energy at 300 yards. The Hunter's Life > GUNS & AMMO > RELOADING > 280 Rem ... For example the 300 Rem Ultra Mag is a normal 30 caliber bullet with a case that closely resembles a 404 Jefferys (a popular African Big Game round). Thread starter jamiereal99; Start date Dec 12, 2017; Dec 12, 2017 #1 J. jamiereal99 Newbie. Compared to the 7mm Remington Magnum, top 7mm RUM loads deliver 25% more energy a… I shoot the 300 every time out now. The ballistic performance… The 7mm-08 is a bit closer to the 308 and doesn't really come close to the ballistics of the 7mm mag. and 300 WSM popped up -- well, I guess Remington couldn't resist jumping in. 7mm Rem Mag with a 24" barrel runs 73gr R-22 with moly plated 140 Partitions at 3300fps. 15.64 fps 30.4 foot-pounds Astute readers will notice a few things from these numbers: Contrary to popular belief, the heavier bullet does not drift less in the wind. Thank you help me make this decision, any info would be appreciated. I am not worried about in barrel life as I plan to use the action for a future project anyway. The parent case is the .300 Remington Ultra Magnum and fits a .284 inch bullet on a .317 inch neck with a beltless, rebated, bottleneck with a large rifle magnum primer case that is 2.850 inches long and 3.60 inches in overall length with a 1:9 1/4 rifle twist. It all depends on how far you plan to shoot, I would say 3000 for 7MM Rem Mag and 3250 for 7mm RUM. and MV, not just weight. 7mm Mauser. That is why it is hunting, not using game as targets. Mag. The 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum is a centerfire rifle cartridge. What sort of velocity could I expect from the 7mm RUM compared to the 7mm Rem Mag with this bullet? Always drop charges 10% from maximun loads and increment them slowly and carefully. Three years after, in 2002, Remington introduced the second in the series, the 7mm RUM. 3.5 lbs. Product Name Price Latest Products Most Popular. Updated: December 11, … I like the older SF stocks better then the newer SF II stocks. Velocities implied may not be obtainable with your rifle. By necking down the .300 RUM to suit the .284 or 7mm projectile, Remington produced a non-belted case with a head diameter that is somewhat larger than belt diameter of original belted numbers. 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